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BREAKING NEWS: Proposed facility in Leander to provide 4,000 jobs
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Valence Technology, Inc., a leading U.S.-based manufacturer and supplier of lithium iron magnesium phosphate energy storage solutions, announced on Wednesday it plans to open a facility in Leander that would provide 4,000 jobs. Valence has submitted a grant application to the U.S. Department of Energy under the Electric Drive Vehicle Battery and Component Manufacturing Initiative. The facility would cost nearly $600 million.
"With significant incentives projected from the state, county and city governments, Leander, Texas, was chosen as the primary site for our advanced battery manufacturing plant," said Valence Chief Financial officer Ross Goolsby, who's also a Steiner Ranch resident. "Both State and City officials have demonstrated incredible support for the plan to provide up to 2,700 new, high-tech jobs in the Central Texas region by 2012 and up to 4,000 jobs by 2016. The State of Texas, Williamson County and the City of Leander are projecting and seeking approval of more than $150 million in incentives over a 10-year period."
Leander officials were ecstatic, and busy, while answering phone calls Wednesday afternoon.
"This is a game-changer for Central Texas," Leander Economic Development Director Kirk Clennan said. "The implications of this project on the psychology of business in Central Texas and alternative energy is huge. This will enable Central Texas to move to the next level of economic evolution."
Valence submitted its application requesting $225 million in federal grant funds over a three-year period and plans to fund the remaining $359.4 million (61.5% of the total project costs) through state and local tax and other incentives. The annual production capacity of the proposed facility is estimated to be 660,000 battery packs or more than one million kilowatt hours (kWh) of equivalent available energy and can be online as early as August 2012. This grant application is a separate request from the Company's March loan application under the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Incentive Program (ATVMIP). Funds under both programs are available to qualified companies.
This initiative supports the construction of facilities to manufacture advanced battery technology components for electric vehicles. The company's proposed facility would manufacture lithium phosphate cathode material, high-capacity advanced cells and battery packs for electric drive vehicles and other applications.
"Potentially it's a $760 million project with real estate acquisition and its improvements, construction of the facility, equipment, furnitures and fixtures for Phase 1 and Phase 2," Clennan said.
"Our recent grant proposal includes an aggressive construction plan for manufacturing capacity that exceeds the Department of Energy specifications," said Ross Goolsby, Valence Chief Financial Officer. "We can put this manufacturing plant online in the U.S. and begin production quickly because after 20 years in business we already possess the manufacturing know-how, comprehensive intellectual property portfolio, next-generation technology and experience needed to deliver results and generate new jobs."
Funds totalling $2 billion for grants under this initiative have been appropriated under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, which aims to stimulate the economy and create new American jobs by specifically utilizing renewable energy technologies that will shift the nation to a low-carbon economy.
"Texas knows energy and as a United States public corporation we appreciate Texas' determination to become the leader of the next energy evolution. Valence Technology wants to put that expertise to work with this grant. We've already demonstrated our manufacturing capability overseas and know we can bring our technology and manufacturing expertise to Texas, putting more Americans to work sooner rather than later with safe lithium phosphate technology," said Robert L. Kanode, Valence President & CEO.
"We're pulling together infrastructure and suppliers to rally around our high quality, proven battery systems. The multiplier from our success will mean success for the region, attracting industries with next generation technologies.Valence Technology already has the capabilities to produce and deliver large-format energy solutions for electric drive vehicles, hybrids and other applications. Funds from this grant are important to ensure advanced battery jobs and advanced technologies grow and thrive on U.S. soil," continued Kanode.
This past March, Valence Technology submitted an application to the Department of Energy's Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Incentive Program for low interest loans to help finance the construction of this new world-class lithium iron magnesium phosphate battery manufacturing facility.
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watchdog wrote on Jun 13, 2009 6:52 AM:
" Taxing a birthday party as you put it...You guys would just find a loop hole as you do with everything else. It wouldn't surprise me a bit. Taxing birthday parties. Yeah, I could see the current council doing that. Well, the incumbents running for re-election anyhow. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 13, 2009 6:50 AM:
" Ok, just clarify this. I thought people 'voted' on a tax.
And I'm glad to see someone call it a tax. I thought it was hid behind a term of a building permit fee.
Seems like I would choose to build by business elsewhere, where I wasn't being hit with another Tax.
So, I guess Valence is going to pay a $200,000 art tax fee and I am most certain they know about it, or was this one on the 'incentives' and the fee is being waived?? "
And I'm glad to see someone call it a tax. I thought it was hid behind a term of a building permit fee.
Seems like I would choose to build by business elsewhere, where I wasn't being hit with another Tax.
So, I guess Valence is going to pay a $200,000 art tax fee and I am most certain they know about it, or was this one on the 'incentives' and the fee is being waived?? "
ResLeander wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:33 PM:
" Watchdog,
The Public Arts Commission. Good questions. The tax is 1% and would apply to the cost of the construction of a new commercial facility. The owner and builder can appeal to City Council for a reduce tax or a full waiver of the tax. The cap of the funds to the Commission is $200,000.00
It is a tax, one that applies to a very specific and very distinct base. It is also does not require a city wide vote. A tax that would be requisite of a City wide vote, would need to be in the form of something that directly effects all of the citizens. For example, Council wishes to Tax all Birthday parties, then it would have to come to a vote by the citizens because it directly affects all if not most of them. City Charter and ordinances allows for this this form of distinct tax without city vote, and allows for the council to make the vote.
Most cities do implement such tax programs that will fund programs such as the public arts commission. Commercial building project in most cases are comfortable with something like this, as they see the benefit of the program as a whole for the city adn for their business. A city that they wish to do business in, and see it as an identity that they can utilize for their own growth.
It is also important to note that while a project on the scale of a Lowes, or HEB may see this as a no brainer, mainly because they will most likely some sort of tax incentive to build here in the first place, they will have no issue with paying this tax because it benefits them as they can share identity with the city. Let for example, say 1 point on the front, and 10 point off the back. It’s straight forward business negotiation. The way I see it with a 200K cap, the impact on small ventures will most likely be waived if requested.
The real issue is how to genrate the funds, and appropriate them in a way hat does not afffect the genral funs or overall budget. Hence this program.
Let me add something else that I think is really worth mentioning. Last month the Arts commission presented to council a plan and design for what I would call Gateway Monuments at key roadway entries into Leander. I commend them not only for the design, but for the fact that the appointees to the commision worked really hard to get a number of folks involved in the project to donate as much as possible to make this happen. Busineses that are already established and see the benefit of Public Arts. Projects such as this bring an identity to Leander that will have an impact. Not only for Leander, but for the businesses that will be here. Public Arts is a good thing, and the businesses that are donating time, labor, and many of the materials to a project such as this, also realize the importance of funding such a commission. They all know that if they decide to build another facility, they will see this tax come up. More than likely they will step up again, pay the tax, or get a waiver and donate. Once again, its business.
Res "
The Public Arts Commission. Good questions. The tax is 1% and would apply to the cost of the construction of a new commercial facility. The owner and builder can appeal to City Council for a reduce tax or a full waiver of the tax. The cap of the funds to the Commission is $200,000.00
It is a tax, one that applies to a very specific and very distinct base. It is also does not require a city wide vote. A tax that would be requisite of a City wide vote, would need to be in the form of something that directly effects all of the citizens. For example, Council wishes to Tax all Birthday parties, then it would have to come to a vote by the citizens because it directly affects all if not most of them. City Charter and ordinances allows for this this form of distinct tax without city vote, and allows for the council to make the vote.
Most cities do implement such tax programs that will fund programs such as the public arts commission. Commercial building project in most cases are comfortable with something like this, as they see the benefit of the program as a whole for the city adn for their business. A city that they wish to do business in, and see it as an identity that they can utilize for their own growth.
It is also important to note that while a project on the scale of a Lowes, or HEB may see this as a no brainer, mainly because they will most likely some sort of tax incentive to build here in the first place, they will have no issue with paying this tax because it benefits them as they can share identity with the city. Let for example, say 1 point on the front, and 10 point off the back. It’s straight forward business negotiation. The way I see it with a 200K cap, the impact on small ventures will most likely be waived if requested.
The real issue is how to genrate the funds, and appropriate them in a way hat does not afffect the genral funs or overall budget. Hence this program.
Let me add something else that I think is really worth mentioning. Last month the Arts commission presented to council a plan and design for what I would call Gateway Monuments at key roadway entries into Leander. I commend them not only for the design, but for the fact that the appointees to the commision worked really hard to get a number of folks involved in the project to donate as much as possible to make this happen. Busineses that are already established and see the benefit of Public Arts. Projects such as this bring an identity to Leander that will have an impact. Not only for Leander, but for the businesses that will be here. Public Arts is a good thing, and the businesses that are donating time, labor, and many of the materials to a project such as this, also realize the importance of funding such a commission. They all know that if they decide to build another facility, they will see this tax come up. More than likely they will step up again, pay the tax, or get a waiver and donate. Once again, its business.
Res "
watchdog wrote on Jun 12, 2009 7:14 PM:
" Oh, and this is one item I'm not clear on. Perhaps you Res, (and no, I'm mean this sincerely), could tell me about the Art Committee and building fee?
Up to $200,000 and not to exceed $200,000. Builders will be 'encouraged' to donate. I've not done my homework on this, so perhaps someone could clarify it for me. Does encourage mean 'they have to' and does donate, mean 'they have to'?? Just curious.
One almost might think this could be called an 'art tax'?? Correct me if I'm wrong. And yes, I know a tax should be voted on. I was just wondering if this was 'creative and progressive' way of imposing a tax without calling it a tax. "
Up to $200,000 and not to exceed $200,000. Builders will be 'encouraged' to donate. I've not done my homework on this, so perhaps someone could clarify it for me. Does encourage mean 'they have to' and does donate, mean 'they have to'?? Just curious.
One almost might think this could be called an 'art tax'?? Correct me if I'm wrong. And yes, I know a tax should be voted on. I was just wondering if this was 'creative and progressive' way of imposing a tax without calling it a tax. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 12, 2009 7:08 PM:
" You know Parmer and others...instead of 'predictions' and 'crystal ball fortunes', why don't we re-explore some of the things John Cowman has done.
He takes a Lot of credit for things he had absolutely nothing to do with. I remember when he first knocked on my door when he was running for mayor. Remember, I've been here longer than he has.
He acts like he got our faucets turned on. He takes credit for a MUD that he balked. He takes credit for a hospital that would problably already be in the works, if he hadn't shot down Winding Creek. We have a LOT of dirt, but without infrastructure, it isn't 'shovel ready' dirt, which is what people that want to build here are looking for.
They have this 'build it now and they will come' field of dreams attitude, but the truth is, where is the infrastructure? Where is our TOD? Look at Robert Mueller in Austin. Their TOD is done!
We built schools and neighborhoods and no roads in and out. It takes an election to get projects started, that should have been started long ago. And the best excuse we get is, it was 'snake bit'....C'mon. I for one will hold true to what I believe and you folks do the same. Maybe after tomorrow we can all go back to being friends. I will at least know that I tried and try I will. I regret not having done more for Vic. "
He takes a Lot of credit for things he had absolutely nothing to do with. I remember when he first knocked on my door when he was running for mayor. Remember, I've been here longer than he has.
He acts like he got our faucets turned on. He takes credit for a MUD that he balked. He takes credit for a hospital that would problably already be in the works, if he hadn't shot down Winding Creek. We have a LOT of dirt, but without infrastructure, it isn't 'shovel ready' dirt, which is what people that want to build here are looking for.
They have this 'build it now and they will come' field of dreams attitude, but the truth is, where is the infrastructure? Where is our TOD? Look at Robert Mueller in Austin. Their TOD is done!
We built schools and neighborhoods and no roads in and out. It takes an election to get projects started, that should have been started long ago. And the best excuse we get is, it was 'snake bit'....C'mon. I for one will hold true to what I believe and you folks do the same. Maybe after tomorrow we can all go back to being friends. I will at least know that I tried and try I will. I regret not having done more for Vic. "
parmer101 wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:57 AM:
" I predict we'll see a huge derailment if the opposing candidates are elected and fail to hit the ground running. Who am I kidding? They have given me no confidence that they can hit the ground running. Ok, maybe they could handle a McDonalds and parking on grass ordinances, but Valence? Sorry, you haven't even gotten in the book let alone on the same page to earn my vote of confidence. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 12, 2009 6:42 AM:
" Look, talk about a 'train moving back". Why don't we concentrate on just getting the darn thing to run.
Was really glad to see that Sunset Commission will now be over-seeing the Actions of Cap Metro. It's about time.
Now, we just need someone to over-see what goes on, on our Council.
And again, I didn't bring up the argument of 'how long someone has lived here'. I was merely responding to a blog by KeepitReal for she is the one to seem to think that it has a real importance. Hence, the start of the blog "..in response to..."
Seems that you are busy as well. Take care Res.... "
Was really glad to see that Sunset Commission will now be over-seeing the Actions of Cap Metro. It's about time.
Now, we just need someone to over-see what goes on, on our Council.
And again, I didn't bring up the argument of 'how long someone has lived here'. I was merely responding to a blog by KeepitReal for she is the one to seem to think that it has a real importance. Hence, the start of the blog "..in response to..."
Seems that you are busy as well. Take care Res.... "
ResLeander wrote on Jun 12, 2009 2:48 AM:
" WatchDog,
I want to make one thing clear; it is not how long someone has lived her that is so important anymore. Anyone can see that. It is about all of those who live here now, and for that matter those who wish to live here in the future. Anyone with a bit of common sense can see that the increase of population has a right to voice. My guess is this, along with you and you’re your crew, is that you want it all to go back to the good old days.
I might add that this crew is a pretty solid group of folks whom in my opinion, and let me clarify that, lest I get a subpoena, are what I would consider to be collective minority in this whole city. It is a bad thing to see a train move back. Your crew is that collective minority. Your crew is backed by some very bitter folks, who instead of seeing the real potential at the time, are now angry and now fighting back with a few pawns. Let me clarify “OPINION” This crew is now willing to sacrifice the city at large, which at my best is about 75% of recent population growth because they are angry? Because they feel like they have been left behind? Because they feel they have been betrayed in some way
How long you have lived in Leander is not an issue. Roughly 37% of Leander residents have lived here less than 4 years.
Less than 30% have lived here in the last 7 years.
So it is unrealistic in any sense to pay that card. Frankly that old time, I have been here since the dawn of time thing doesn’t cut it with me at all. This City needs more that that!!
This is a very poor argument Watchdog. Try harder!! "
I want to make one thing clear; it is not how long someone has lived her that is so important anymore. Anyone can see that. It is about all of those who live here now, and for that matter those who wish to live here in the future. Anyone with a bit of common sense can see that the increase of population has a right to voice. My guess is this, along with you and you’re your crew, is that you want it all to go back to the good old days.
I might add that this crew is a pretty solid group of folks whom in my opinion, and let me clarify that, lest I get a subpoena, are what I would consider to be collective minority in this whole city. It is a bad thing to see a train move back. Your crew is that collective minority. Your crew is backed by some very bitter folks, who instead of seeing the real potential at the time, are now angry and now fighting back with a few pawns. Let me clarify “OPINION” This crew is now willing to sacrifice the city at large, which at my best is about 75% of recent population growth because they are angry? Because they feel like they have been left behind? Because they feel they have been betrayed in some way
How long you have lived in Leander is not an issue. Roughly 37% of Leander residents have lived here less than 4 years.
Less than 30% have lived here in the last 7 years.
So it is unrealistic in any sense to pay that card. Frankly that old time, I have been here since the dawn of time thing doesn’t cut it with me at all. This City needs more that that!!
This is a very poor argument Watchdog. Try harder!! "
watchdog wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:51 AM:
" Oh, and in your response to 'people like watchdog haven't lived here long enough"....
I've lived here for 12 years, that's 3 years longer than Michell Cantwell, 2 years longer than Andrea Navarette (you), and 4 years longer than John Cowman. 2 years less than Mayor David Siebold (yeah, that's a joke)
Cathy Broun has lived here 56 years, Josh Payne 17 years, Mark Kronkosky 18 years. So your response of "haven't lived here long enough to know"...geez louise. Keep it real...once again...need I say more? "
I've lived here for 12 years, that's 3 years longer than Michell Cantwell, 2 years longer than Andrea Navarette (you), and 4 years longer than John Cowman. 2 years less than Mayor David Siebold (yeah, that's a joke)
Cathy Broun has lived here 56 years, Josh Payne 17 years, Mark Kronkosky 18 years. So your response of "haven't lived here long enough to know"...geez louise. Keep it real...once again...need I say more? "
watchdog wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:54 AM:
" Whoa! Hang on there little missy. (keepitreal)
'Look in the mirror"?? you say..??
You are accusing me of starting the rumor?
Perhaps you are just trying to divert attention from the ugly rumors that your running mate, as recently as a few short months ago, was still saying about you. Are you really willing to put your family out for public ridicule? No one is/was trying to hurt you, other than YOUR OWN RUNNING MATE.
You have decided to go there. You have made your choice. I just hope you and your family are strong enough to handle it. Remember, kids have no choice in the matter. It is our choices as parents that affect them. Make you choices wisely. "
'Look in the mirror"?? you say..??
You are accusing me of starting the rumor?
Perhaps you are just trying to divert attention from the ugly rumors that your running mate, as recently as a few short months ago, was still saying about you. Are you really willing to put your family out for public ridicule? No one is/was trying to hurt you, other than YOUR OWN RUNNING MATE.
You have decided to go there. You have made your choice. I just hope you and your family are strong enough to handle it. Remember, kids have no choice in the matter. It is our choices as parents that affect them. Make you choices wisely. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 7, 2009 12:32 AM:
" Look 'keep it real' who really won't be real.
I heard about the rumor. It was true that a rumor had been started. You deny that? High school kid or not. This kid isn't in high school anymore, but runs his own business and makes more money than you do (if you work for the school district)..
And, None of us have shot down Vallance or the Fire Dept. You guys jump on a word and there you go again, starting rumors. Those are your words not ours.
Coffee shop in Cedar Park..well it is what it is. He threw his buddy Vic under the bus, it is what is.
Cowman threw you under the bus when he openly discussed your and Biff's previous affair. It is what it is.
I don't know why you associate with the people you do. I will leave it at that. "
I heard about the rumor. It was true that a rumor had been started. You deny that? High school kid or not. This kid isn't in high school anymore, but runs his own business and makes more money than you do (if you work for the school district)..
And, None of us have shot down Vallance or the Fire Dept. You guys jump on a word and there you go again, starting rumors. Those are your words not ours.
Coffee shop in Cedar Park..well it is what it is. He threw his buddy Vic under the bus, it is what is.
Cowman threw you under the bus when he openly discussed your and Biff's previous affair. It is what it is.
I don't know why you associate with the people you do. I will leave it at that. "
ResLeander wrote on Jun 6, 2009 9:48 PM:
" Note to all,
ResLeander
Research Leander. That means research everything that is Leander as well as the region.
Res "
ResLeander
Research Leander. That means research everything that is Leander as well as the region.
Res "
parmer101 wrote on Jun 6, 2009 2:21 PM:
" Well said, ResLeander. Glad the opposing candidates continue to show themselves. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 6, 2009 6:49 AM:
" Keep it Real. What's your REAL name. David and others had a problem with me NOT posting mine, so I did and I didn't even use the name "KEEP IT REAL"... if you are so REAL, what's your real name? Or are you too scared to say?
Sincerely,
Bambi Hampton "
Sincerely,
Bambi Hampton "
keepitreal wrote on Jun 6, 2009 1:28 AM:
" ResLeander
People like watchdog have not lived here long enough to see or experience the issues we had with water in the early 80's and 90's. Perez has always been the one who wants to roll back the clock and put Leander right back into the stone age.
Leander needs to secure a secondary source of water, and without this businesses will not move to Leander and head north into Liberty Hill.
Oh, watchdog, do you know anything about franchises? Seibold is in a franchise and "THEY" tell you where to build, if they do not feel the city you want to build in is a viable option, then you do not get to build there. I was as ignorant as you on this issue but I decided to call "Its a Grind" before I made such a statement.
Here is the number if you want to educate yourself:
IAG Coffee Franchise, LLC
6272 E. Pacific Coast Highway
Suite E
Long Beach, CA 90803
Tel: 562.594.5600 Ext. 256
Fax: 562.594.4100
Toll Free 866.IAG.JAVA (424.5282)
franchise@itsagrind.com "
People like watchdog have not lived here long enough to see or experience the issues we had with water in the early 80's and 90's. Perez has always been the one who wants to roll back the clock and put Leander right back into the stone age.
Leander needs to secure a secondary source of water, and without this businesses will not move to Leander and head north into Liberty Hill.
Oh, watchdog, do you know anything about franchises? Seibold is in a franchise and "THEY" tell you where to build, if they do not feel the city you want to build in is a viable option, then you do not get to build there. I was as ignorant as you on this issue but I decided to call "Its a Grind" before I made such a statement.
Here is the number if you want to educate yourself:
IAG Coffee Franchise, LLC
6272 E. Pacific Coast Highway
Suite E
Long Beach, CA 90803
Tel: 562.594.5600 Ext. 256
Fax: 562.594.4100
Toll Free 866.IAG.JAVA (424.5282)
franchise@itsagrind.com "
keepitreal wrote on Jun 6, 2009 1:14 AM:
" So watchdog,
(You heard a rumor from a kid that went to LHS and knows several of the firemen? So wit hthat rumor, you decided to make such bold statements as:)
"The only reason the fire dept. got involved is because the opposing candidates can see that personel is top heavy and the guys that really lay their lives on the line for you and I are not getting their fair share of the pie."-watchdog 2009
(You made this statement as an opinion of your own. You nevr mentioned it was a rumor. Did your high school informant give you any other juicy information about other issues you know nothing about? )
(Your the one who is putting this "rumor" out there. Based on your statement above you had this all figured out. great job! I see a guest apperance on CSI-Leander in your future.)
Now, I don't care who you are, even the villiage idiot would not believe that one. Nothing against the village idiot, but hey, let's 'GET REAL'. No one, either side would do that. -watchdog 2009
(Seems you believed it enough to post it in your blog)
"Tthe reason it upset me so? Well, all I could think of is how irresponsible of anyone, rumor starter or rumor believer, to let that one get out of hand. It was manipulated, by someone and it wasn't Davis, Kronkosky, Payne or Broun. So since you guys are so smart, why don't you tell me who it was. ??"-watchdog 2009
(look in the mirror, you are the one that started the rumor)
"This rumor upset me so, because I felt those young men and women shouldn't have to go and try to perform their jobs with the scary thought of losing their jobs in the back of their minds. I would think that the sort of work they do, saving lives, that being on the top of your game would be imperative. I find it almost inept of the supers to not have had the ability to dispell this rumor and assure their guys and gals that they in fact would not lose their jobs, NO MATTER WHO WAS IN OFFICE. That rumor was no less bizarre than telling someone the world is flat."-watchdog 2009
(you went off the word of a high school kid that told you his friends said this, and now you blame the supervisors for not doing a good enough job of dispelling a rumor? I am sure the supervisors addressed the isuse and if they showed no real concern then their men would see it is no concern, i am not sure of what type of place you work in but I can say for a fact that the men and women that are either a police officer, fireman or EMS do not need you to coddle them and try to protect them from the big bad council. Any time an election takes place, those working for a City or County become a bit uneasy, anytime you have a changing of council anything can happen. Look at what heppened when Cowmans team came in, they fired the City manager, when Sheriff Wilson took office he cleaned house and hired new admin staff. But i am sure you work in the retail world and you would not understand these these things, do us all a favor and not pamper or coddle our fireman, I am sure if they cant enter a burning building they can survive one more election) "
(You heard a rumor from a kid that went to LHS and knows several of the firemen? So wit hthat rumor, you decided to make such bold statements as:)
"The only reason the fire dept. got involved is because the opposing candidates can see that personel is top heavy and the guys that really lay their lives on the line for you and I are not getting their fair share of the pie."-watchdog 2009
(You made this statement as an opinion of your own. You nevr mentioned it was a rumor. Did your high school informant give you any other juicy information about other issues you know nothing about? )
(Your the one who is putting this "rumor" out there. Based on your statement above you had this all figured out. great job! I see a guest apperance on CSI-Leander in your future.)
Now, I don't care who you are, even the villiage idiot would not believe that one. Nothing against the village idiot, but hey, let's 'GET REAL'. No one, either side would do that. -watchdog 2009
(Seems you believed it enough to post it in your blog)
"Tthe reason it upset me so? Well, all I could think of is how irresponsible of anyone, rumor starter or rumor believer, to let that one get out of hand. It was manipulated, by someone and it wasn't Davis, Kronkosky, Payne or Broun. So since you guys are so smart, why don't you tell me who it was. ??"-watchdog 2009
(look in the mirror, you are the one that started the rumor)
"This rumor upset me so, because I felt those young men and women shouldn't have to go and try to perform their jobs with the scary thought of losing their jobs in the back of their minds. I would think that the sort of work they do, saving lives, that being on the top of your game would be imperative. I find it almost inept of the supers to not have had the ability to dispell this rumor and assure their guys and gals that they in fact would not lose their jobs, NO MATTER WHO WAS IN OFFICE. That rumor was no less bizarre than telling someone the world is flat."-watchdog 2009
(you went off the word of a high school kid that told you his friends said this, and now you blame the supervisors for not doing a good enough job of dispelling a rumor? I am sure the supervisors addressed the isuse and if they showed no real concern then their men would see it is no concern, i am not sure of what type of place you work in but I can say for a fact that the men and women that are either a police officer, fireman or EMS do not need you to coddle them and try to protect them from the big bad council. Any time an election takes place, those working for a City or County become a bit uneasy, anytime you have a changing of council anything can happen. Look at what heppened when Cowmans team came in, they fired the City manager, when Sheriff Wilson took office he cleaned house and hired new admin staff. But i am sure you work in the retail world and you would not understand these these things, do us all a favor and not pamper or coddle our fireman, I am sure if they cant enter a burning building they can survive one more election) "
ResLeander wrote on Jun 6, 2009 1:09 AM:
" This a pull from the www.leanderdidyouknow.com site that the challenging candidates are so proud of. You know, the site that attacks the incumbents.
- "The State of Texas, Williamson County and the City of Leander are projecting and seeking approval
of more than $150 million in incentives over a 10-year period."
- "Valence submitted its application requesting $225 million in federal grant funds over a three-year
period and plans to fund the remaining $359.4 million (61.5% of the total project costs) through
state and local tax and other incentives."
- The article doesn't mention when these grants are to be decided, some say in August. Why is the
city announcing this so early - before the funds required have been approved? Hmmmm?
Why are they so proud of shooting down a deal such as this. Do they have any clue as to what the real benefit to Leander is should this become a reality.
Do they not understand the ancillary job growth and small business growth that could from this? What are they looking for?
Instead of stepping up to help make sure that this venture happens for Leander, they question it. Maybe they need to pay a little more attention to what this means to Leander and be more proactive in making sure that this venture becomes a reality, as opposed to thinking of their own best interests!
As I see it, it is in the best interest for Leander to fight to make sure this deal happens. It is a win for the region, the State, and the Country. and most of all a win for the city. Don't knock it down, make it happen.
It also helps to know what your tlking about before you knock it. "
- "The State of Texas, Williamson County and the City of Leander are projecting and seeking approval
of more than $150 million in incentives over a 10-year period."
- "Valence submitted its application requesting $225 million in federal grant funds over a three-year
period and plans to fund the remaining $359.4 million (61.5% of the total project costs) through
state and local tax and other incentives."
- The article doesn't mention when these grants are to be decided, some say in August. Why is the
city announcing this so early - before the funds required have been approved? Hmmmm?
Why are they so proud of shooting down a deal such as this. Do they have any clue as to what the real benefit to Leander is should this become a reality.
Do they not understand the ancillary job growth and small business growth that could from this? What are they looking for?
Instead of stepping up to help make sure that this venture happens for Leander, they question it. Maybe they need to pay a little more attention to what this means to Leander and be more proactive in making sure that this venture becomes a reality, as opposed to thinking of their own best interests!
As I see it, it is in the best interest for Leander to fight to make sure this deal happens. It is a win for the region, the State, and the Country. and most of all a win for the city. Don't knock it down, make it happen.
It also helps to know what your tlking about before you knock it. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 5, 2009 11:22 PM:
" Hey Parmer,
take your own advice.
My name is Bambi Hampton, not like you didn't already now...but just fyi, Deputy Fire Chief Bill Gardner told me himself that he had to call the for the private interview, because he was UNABLE to calm down his staff and relieve them of the worry of this rumor.
You take that how you want to. It sounds to me you are pretty unreachable. But if you are willing, I will try. I think I have your 'rubbish' in my trash can where it belongs. "
take your own advice.
My name is Bambi Hampton, not like you didn't already now...but just fyi, Deputy Fire Chief Bill Gardner told me himself that he had to call the for the private interview, because he was UNABLE to calm down his staff and relieve them of the worry of this rumor.
You take that how you want to. It sounds to me you are pretty unreachable. But if you are willing, I will try. I think I have your 'rubbish' in my trash can where it belongs. "
watchdog wrote on Jun 5, 2009 11:16 PM:
" my goodness 'keep it real', perhaps it is you Andrea? I'm only guessing. It has the same maturity as the stuff you wrote on my facebook. It sure sounds like you. Like the Big Bad Wolf Fairy Tale sort of thing you have going on there.
Well, let's see. Josh, I believe is taking over a previous business already started, I'm not absolutely certain, but I think that is the case.
Davis, has offices in both Cedar Park and Leander. I know if they own the building at least they are paying taxes on it, so don't gripe about it too much.
The whole fire dept. deal. That all started with a rumor. I heard about the rumor before any of the non-incumbent candidates did for I called them at 7am to ask them if they knew what was going on. If you want to know where I heard it, I'll be happy to tell you.
I happen to be friends with a local kid that went to Leander High School who happens to be friends with several of the boys with fire dept. He told me they were all freaking out because they were afraid of losing their jobs. They were told that the opposing candidates intended to make the fire dept. all volunteer.
Now, I don't care who you are, even the villiage idiot would not believe that one. Nothing against the village idiot, but hey, let's 'GET REAL'. No one, either side would do that.
They (being the non-incumbents) were surprised and couldn't believe that fire dept. was told they would be reduced to a 'volunteer fire dept.'.
Tthe reason it upset me so? Well, all I could think of is how irresponsible of anyone, rumor starter or rumor believer, to let that one get out of hand. It was manipulated, by someone and it wasn't Davis, Kronkosky, Payne or Broun. So since you guys are so smart, why don't you tell me who it was. ??
This rumor upset me so, because I felt those young men and women shouldn't have to go and try to perform their jobs with the scary thought of losing their jobs in the back of their minds. I would think that the sort of work they do, saving lives, that being on the top of your game would be imperative. I find it almost inept of the supers to not have had the ability to dispell this rumor and assure their guys and gals that they in fact would not lose their jobs, NO MATTER WHO WAS IN OFFICE. That rumor was no less bizarre than telling someone the world is flat.
Now keep it real, you keep on attacking. You keep honing those skills and perhaps one day you'll get' real good' at it.
As for kool aid? heck, I don't even like the stuff. "
Well, let's see. Josh, I believe is taking over a previous business already started, I'm not absolutely certain, but I think that is the case.
Davis, has offices in both Cedar Park and Leander. I know if they own the building at least they are paying taxes on it, so don't gripe about it too much.
The whole fire dept. deal. That all started with a rumor. I heard about the rumor before any of the non-incumbent candidates did for I called them at 7am to ask them if they knew what was going on. If you want to know where I heard it, I'll be happy to tell you.
I happen to be friends with a local kid that went to Leander High School who happens to be friends with several of the boys with fire dept. He told me they were all freaking out because they were afraid of losing their jobs. They were told that the opposing candidates intended to make the fire dept. all volunteer.
Now, I don't care who you are, even the villiage idiot would not believe that one. Nothing against the village idiot, but hey, let's 'GET REAL'. No one, either side would do that.
They (being the non-incumbents) were surprised and couldn't believe that fire dept. was told they would be reduced to a 'volunteer fire dept.'.
Tthe reason it upset me so? Well, all I could think of is how irresponsible of anyone, rumor starter or rumor believer, to let that one get out of hand. It was manipulated, by someone and it wasn't Davis, Kronkosky, Payne or Broun. So since you guys are so smart, why don't you tell me who it was. ??
This rumor upset me so, because I felt those young men and women shouldn't have to go and try to perform their jobs with the scary thought of losing their jobs in the back of their minds. I would think that the sort of work they do, saving lives, that being on the top of your game would be imperative. I find it almost inept of the supers to not have had the ability to dispell this rumor and assure their guys and gals that they in fact would not lose their jobs, NO MATTER WHO WAS IN OFFICE. That rumor was no less bizarre than telling someone the world is flat.
Now keep it real, you keep on attacking. You keep honing those skills and perhaps one day you'll get' real good' at it.
As for kool aid? heck, I don't even like the stuff. "
parmer101 wrote on Jun 5, 2009 10:22 PM:
" Way to go City of Leander. Can't wait until their application is approved. A great feather in the cap of Texas and Leander!
Completely disagree with the unsubstantiated statements and claims made by Watchdog. Kool aid is right, unless there's a better explanation for the negative attitude and false or misleading truths. People always tend to look foolish when they speak of what they know little about, as evident in these posts. Care to explain why two candidates (Davis and Payne) have their businesses in Cedar Park instead of Leander?
Way to go Leander and don't listen to such rubbish. "
Completely disagree with the unsubstantiated statements and claims made by Watchdog. Kool aid is right, unless there's a better explanation for the negative attitude and false or misleading truths. People always tend to look foolish when they speak of what they know little about, as evident in these posts. Care to explain why two candidates (Davis and Payne) have their businesses in Cedar Park instead of Leander?
Way to go Leander and don't listen to such rubbish. "
keepitreal wrote on Jun 5, 2009 10:02 PM:
" watchdog story hour:
The big bad fire admininstration is holding the younger fire staff down.
Have you ever been a firefighter? Probably not, those guys that are administration did their time "laying their life" down to get where they are today. They made it to the top to help those whom are currently "laying their life" down today to train and be better prepared then they were (big bad admin) years back. Mabye the FD got involved is because they support the direction the current council is taking them, but we know thats wrong because you have the "inside" scoop!
"The only reason the fire dept. got involved is because the opposing candidates can see that personel is top heavy and the guys that really lay their lives on the line for you and I are not getting their fair share of the pie."-watchdog 2009
This made me lol....Again with the big bad admin preying on the younger staff. I really have no comment on this statement, your words clearly explain that once again you have the "inside" scoop.
"that the top heavy paid personel are convincing the youger staff that they should fear losing their jobs. This was wrong of them to do so. They really misconstrued what the other candidates said and that is just a really sad thing."-watchdog 2009
Oh and just to throw in your catchy phrase:
"You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am mine."
Let's try to stick with the facts please. "
The big bad fire admininstration is holding the younger fire staff down.
Have you ever been a firefighter? Probably not, those guys that are administration did their time "laying their life" down to get where they are today. They made it to the top to help those whom are currently "laying their life" down today to train and be better prepared then they were (big bad admin) years back. Mabye the FD got involved is because they support the direction the current council is taking them, but we know thats wrong because you have the "inside" scoop!
"The only reason the fire dept. got involved is because the opposing candidates can see that personel is top heavy and the guys that really lay their lives on the line for you and I are not getting their fair share of the pie."-watchdog 2009
This made me lol....Again with the big bad admin preying on the younger staff. I really have no comment on this statement, your words clearly explain that once again you have the "inside" scoop.
"that the top heavy paid personel are convincing the youger staff that they should fear losing their jobs. This was wrong of them to do so. They really misconstrued what the other candidates said and that is just a really sad thing."-watchdog 2009
Oh and just to throw in your catchy phrase:
"You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am mine."
Let's try to stick with the facts please. "
watchdog wrote on May 31, 2009 2:53 PM:
" I appreciate the dialogue between us. I think discussion is very important. That is where I began and why I continue.
I never said that the Fire Dept. was top heavy and what I refer to is the City Staff offices held by the City Manager and others. We have 7 employees that make an incredible amount of money compared to other neighboring cities whose populations are larger and produce more revenue and perform more job duties under their job descriptions.
I don't believe I EVER mentioned the Police Dept. in ANY of my discussions. It is my personal belief that the Fire Dept. was lead to believe that they would have to make cuts. I have talked with the opponents (to the incumbents) and I understood it to be that they think they Fire Dept. could benefit more if the jobs in the City Management Dept. weren't so Top Heavy. Heck we don't even run our own Library and I don't if you've visited it, but there isn't much in the way of material. It's a beautiful building but lacking in resources.
Our City Manager has negotiated himself a very sweet contract. He has certainly honed his negotiating skills from his past experiences. It is my understanding that he is very well protected under his contract and any deviation from the contract would cost the city much money. It's sort of like entering into a prenup before getting married. I suppose it's the 'smart' thing to do, but personally from my point of view it hinders somewhat of trust and belief in one's loyalty, trust and confidence that job performance will be performed to one's best ability and a symbiotic relationship between council and staff would be one's priority.
From my perspective and what motivates my voice in my opinion, is what appears to be a 'catering' to personal agendas, special interests and possible conflicts in interest. I believe there is an unfair representation of the entire city as a whole. I don't think that is too hard to understand. And, if I am wrong so be it, dialogue such as this is how new things are learned. I am just glad that I live in a Country where you and I both are afforded the privilege to voice our opinions.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I will listen with an open mind and hope that you do the same. I really just want what I see is best for our community and I am most certain you feel the same way, even if we don't see eye to eye.
take care neighbor... "
I never said that the Fire Dept. was top heavy and what I refer to is the City Staff offices held by the City Manager and others. We have 7 employees that make an incredible amount of money compared to other neighboring cities whose populations are larger and produce more revenue and perform more job duties under their job descriptions.
I don't believe I EVER mentioned the Police Dept. in ANY of my discussions. It is my personal belief that the Fire Dept. was lead to believe that they would have to make cuts. I have talked with the opponents (to the incumbents) and I understood it to be that they think they Fire Dept. could benefit more if the jobs in the City Management Dept. weren't so Top Heavy. Heck we don't even run our own Library and I don't if you've visited it, but there isn't much in the way of material. It's a beautiful building but lacking in resources.
Our City Manager has negotiated himself a very sweet contract. He has certainly honed his negotiating skills from his past experiences. It is my understanding that he is very well protected under his contract and any deviation from the contract would cost the city much money. It's sort of like entering into a prenup before getting married. I suppose it's the 'smart' thing to do, but personally from my point of view it hinders somewhat of trust and belief in one's loyalty, trust and confidence that job performance will be performed to one's best ability and a symbiotic relationship between council and staff would be one's priority.
From my perspective and what motivates my voice in my opinion, is what appears to be a 'catering' to personal agendas, special interests and possible conflicts in interest. I believe there is an unfair representation of the entire city as a whole. I don't think that is too hard to understand. And, if I am wrong so be it, dialogue such as this is how new things are learned. I am just glad that I live in a Country where you and I both are afforded the privilege to voice our opinions.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I will listen with an open mind and hope that you do the same. I really just want what I see is best for our community and I am most certain you feel the same way, even if we don't see eye to eye.
take care neighbor... "
Newswatcher wrote on May 30, 2009 6:43 PM:
" Please explain how either the police or fire department is top heavy. Both departments have a Chief and a Assistant Chief, They manage a million dollar budget and close to 40 employees. That does not seem to top heavy at all "
watchdog wrote on May 30, 2009 6:41 PM:
" oh, by the way, I do believe I said this would be great for Leander. I am all for this if it actually happens. We need jobs. I believe it was Iris Davis that coined the phrase "Live, Work, Shop and Play". You know, the phrase that John Cowman uses all the time.
I just hope that John Cowman really intends to be nice to Andrea this time, as for last time around he was a real butt to her.
I thought I would clarify for you, since the 'kool-aid' might be affecting my brain, that the top heavy paid personel are convincing the youger staff that they should fear losing their jobs. This was wrong of them to do so. They really misconstrued what the other candidates said and that is just a really sad thing. I wish no one ill will and hope that all works out for Leander no matter who wins.
I have a feeling that you are probably one of City Staff with the really nice fat salary that fears not getting a raise or having to take a pay cut. Heck, I guess I can't blame you for promoting the current council. I guess I wouldn't want to lose a job and/or salary like that either. Oh, and my apologies on getting the whole 'not discussing poltics thing'. Perhaps you wouldn't mind reading my other posts and giving me some feedback so that I might be able to make any corrections there as well. I really appreciate you taking the time to do so. Only a good neighbor would be so brutally honest. Peace again and take care. : ) "
I just hope that John Cowman really intends to be nice to Andrea this time, as for last time around he was a real butt to her.
I thought I would clarify for you, since the 'kool-aid' might be affecting my brain, that the top heavy paid personel are convincing the youger staff that they should fear losing their jobs. This was wrong of them to do so. They really misconstrued what the other candidates said and that is just a really sad thing. I wish no one ill will and hope that all works out for Leander no matter who wins.
I have a feeling that you are probably one of City Staff with the really nice fat salary that fears not getting a raise or having to take a pay cut. Heck, I guess I can't blame you for promoting the current council. I guess I wouldn't want to lose a job and/or salary like that either. Oh, and my apologies on getting the whole 'not discussing poltics thing'. Perhaps you wouldn't mind reading my other posts and giving me some feedback so that I might be able to make any corrections there as well. I really appreciate you taking the time to do so. Only a good neighbor would be so brutally honest. Peace again and take care. : ) "
watchdog wrote on May 30, 2009 6:14 PM:
" I'm not at all negative. The newspaper and council are negative. I am trying to promote something positive. Like honesty and good values. If you think it proper to accuse someone of 'drinking cool-aid' which by the way, I believe it's Kool aid, then I would have to say that you are the negative ninny.
The only reason the fire dept. got involved is because the opposing candidates can see that personel is top heavy and the guys that really lay their lives on the line for you and I are not getting their fair share of the pie. And yes, we all know that the general attitude is that Cedar Park is Land locked and the obvious place to come is Leander. However, we have lost some businesses that didn't close because of the economy, they moved to Cedar Park because we tend to not be so business friendly as we claim to be. Only the 'chosen few' get special incentives. So if you see my honesty as negativity, then so be it. The truth hurts. If Leander is such a wonderful place to open a business and we've welcomed Star Bucks, then why did Dave Siebold open his 'Its a Grind' coffee shop in Cedar Park? hmmm, big supporter of bringing business to Leander, eh? I am sorry you hurt and wish you a better tomorrow. Take care Newswatcher and happy day! America is great place to have the privilege to voice your opinion. I look forward to your next response. Peace neighbor. : ) "
The only reason the fire dept. got involved is because the opposing candidates can see that personel is top heavy and the guys that really lay their lives on the line for you and I are not getting their fair share of the pie. And yes, we all know that the general attitude is that Cedar Park is Land locked and the obvious place to come is Leander. However, we have lost some businesses that didn't close because of the economy, they moved to Cedar Park because we tend to not be so business friendly as we claim to be. Only the 'chosen few' get special incentives. So if you see my honesty as negativity, then so be it. The truth hurts. If Leander is such a wonderful place to open a business and we've welcomed Star Bucks, then why did Dave Siebold open his 'Its a Grind' coffee shop in Cedar Park? hmmm, big supporter of bringing business to Leander, eh? I am sorry you hurt and wish you a better tomorrow. Take care Newswatcher and happy day! America is great place to have the privilege to voice your opinion. I look forward to your next response. Peace neighbor. : ) "
Newswatcher wrote on May 30, 2009 2:07 PM:
" I believe if they are building a one million sq foot building I don't think they will move to Cedar Park. You have been drinking way to much cool-aid. You are they most negative person and you get on here and say false things. City employees are not allowed to talk politics on duty, this does not keep the Firefighters Local from endorsing anyone. Get it right or don't comment "
watchdog wrote on May 29, 2009 7:31 AM:
" Don't count your chicks before they hatch..I think it's great too, didn't you read about this a few issues back. This was printed before ICSC. Let's see if they get the Federal Grant Money. I sure hope they do as this would be great for Leander. Let's also hope they will stay here as so many businesses are leaving and going to Cedar Park. Let's also hope we don't 'over-incentive' ourselves out of a potential for a decent tax base. Our City Officials have a habit of not playing fair across the board on incentives to developers. Not cool... "
ctdadof3 wrote on May 28, 2009 10:03 AM:
" My hats off to the city officials who worked so very hard to help Leander move into the future. There will be so many other good things that come with this new industry. The "green" technology that this company promotes, insures that our community will sustain a well rounded growth in the future. I do honestly believe that it's the foresight of our city officials and management that made this all possible. GOOD JOB!!!! "
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Just another BS scam by Cudman and his grass munching grew. "